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Permalink Reply by Digambar Bhaurao Waghmare on October 12, 2012 at 17:23

Dear Srinivas Garimella

I appreciate your comments I think its very very true better than  Anoop M V

I think you should read my reply carefully I mentioned that I got information on Paper- III

just i provided in my reply I never say Paper- III patterns should be changed 

but I got information so mentioned in my reply..........ok

you one more thing said in your replay person's mentality,

I think its doctors work to check any person mentality

I think you are good manners person so my last replay I said sorry to if anybody hurt due to my replay 

but I realised that I have done mistake .........ok

for your kind information I passed this NET exam only on 3rd attempt .......ok

Thanks & Regards

Digambar B Waghmare 

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Permalink Reply by Digambar Bhaurao Waghmare on October 13, 2012 at 0:28

MR. Srinivas Garimella

thanks for you mentioned in your replay

some person's mentality, who are feeling a Great Intellectuals and degrading the NOT Qualifiers. They are not realizing that after many attempts, they could qualified the UGC-NET, that too

showing my quality and standard

I would like to show 

Prof. N. Laxman Rao. naglaxman@yahoo.com	Sep 23
to me

congrats to Mr. Digambar B Waghmare  Prof. N.LAXMAN RAO, (UGC- EMERITUS PROFESSOR: 2009-11) (FACULTY, Dept or Library  & Information Science, OSMANIA UNIVERSITY:1975-2008),  Director, UGC-Academic Staff College (2006-8) President, Association of British Scholars (Hyderabad Chapter) (2007-11) Plot No: A-194, H.No- 1-8-10/1,Ravindra Nagar,  Habsiguda, HYDERABAD- 500 007 (INDIA) 9246547599 (Mobile)  e:mail-- naglaxman@yahoo.com OR naglaxman@gmail.com

Digambar Waghmare digambarwaghmare7@gmail.com	Sep 24
to Prof Laxman  Rao

Thanks sir 

sir your contribution in LIS field always inspiration for us 

sir Thanks for congrats me  

Digambar B Waghmare 

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Permalink Reply by Digambar Bhaurao Waghmare on October 12, 2012 at 17:11

MR. Anoop M V

I think you should read there commits on me

i think they are personally targeting me 

always posted only this type of rumours or useless topic here 

you said that Mr. Jomy Jose is man of very good Personality always behaving in very good manner and in matured way. They have there freedom to speak about net results and regarding filing case ete. i think i am also good manner & wast experience in LIS filed better then him 

I don't think NET qualified means victory ya its very great achievement 

some narrow mind persons always targeting me........ok

you written also Mr. Sadeesh , Mr. Jomy ete. you are always using words like you become PM, Prisident of India like that 

you must read why I said that 

its was my reaction to action ..........ok

I clearly say every time I not against Non- Qualified

All LIS forum Members are my friends 

please don't post this type of bassless discussion here

I request some of our most knowlegble good manners friends

do not try to split this lis forum on caste wise, NET Qualified- NON NET Qualified  or South, North, West, East region wise 

THanks & Regards

Digambar B Waghmare (Librarian)

Sinhgad College of Engineering, MS

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Permalink Reply by SUNNY JOSEPH on October 12, 2012 at 8:22

further clarifications & suggestions

Sunny Joseph

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Permalink Reply by SUNNY JOSEPH on October 12, 2012 at 8:24

Dear friends,

                   Thanks for all for the active debate on the letter. As a reply to all friends I need to clarify some points. I never want to hurt my friends who could not clear NET . I never attribute undue importance to any academic or pen/paper examination. I don't say those who could not succeed in an exam are idiots. If so, I  were also an idiot  many times. But one thing I can say is, genuine preparation for an exam certainly improves one's knowledge levels whether he succeeds or “technically” fails due to bad luck. I don't know why Indians give over importance to pen & paper exams. Are the  first rank holders  in pen & paper exam  best performers in any profession? Statistics tells, No, in many cases.  Of course,  the toppers should be congratulated for their efforts. The examination system practised in India actually fails in the real assessment of talents. I don’t think Enstein or Edison will pass an entrance test in India. It is funny to note that India may be the only country where teaching eligibility is tested only through pen/paper test and education means merely injecting of data into human brains and little concerned about its application.

            I participated in UGC-NET mainly for updating my subject knowledge and to equate with the NET holders. There may not be any dispute in the fact that the eligibility test for teachers should be of high standard. In Malayalam there is a saying that if the guru makes a  mistake fifty one mistakes  will be committed by his sishyas or students. (there are fifty on letters in Malayalam languge). So accuracy or correctness is very important for a teacher. Similarly ISRO’s rocket will fall to sky though the mission worked well  with 99.9999999% accuracy.

            I am not a blind supporter of descriptive examination. I myself was a scapegoat of the written examination. But, for the time being ,there is no substitute for the descriptive exam. The problem is not with descriptive examination but ensuring its fair valuation. My suggestions to UGC is for minimising the subjective bias and making the evaluation to be done by “really eligible” persons in most transparent way. Objective type  mainly tests the breadth of knowledge and analytical thinking while there is no substitute for written exam for testing the depth of understanding , organised and divergent thinking and linguistic and  presentation skills. Objective test can not test the depth of knowledge. Recently I had a talk with Prof. Lakshman Rao who ardently supported for descriptive examination. It is better to have both objective and descriptive exam and take everage of all three papers so that those who are poor in writing can also get through if good at objective section. In previous times the success was determined only by descriptive paper and evaluation was not transparent and many evaluators were persons of questionable quality. If fair evaluation is impossible in descriptive mode, I strongly support the objective testing.

            I agree with Mr. Jomy Jose that whatever may be the criteria for pass it should be declared before the testing and it must be adhered to. But if the UGC notification is read, it is clear that they fixed only the minimum marks for each paper and categorically stated that final criteria will be decided later.There was difficulty for UGC for fixing the criteria before the exam as they have  no  experience regarding the standard of questions or the performance of candidates in the objective mode conducted for the first time. Their intention is to select only the creamy layer. Though everybody has the right to pass and if everybody passes through there is no meaning in testing. Next time they may be silent on cut off marks as in CSIR/UGC test. And to some people who shout against me please understand that NET is thousand times easier than IAS exam or CAT or Bank PO exam. Anybody with average intelligence can pass NET with some preparation. Failure has only one meaning-success is nearby. So get up, try again. Good luck.

           

 Sunny Joseph

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Permalink Reply by vijaysrinath kanchi on October 12, 2012 at 20:19

Nice good thought provoking reply.

 

Kanchi

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Permalink Reply by Digambar Bhaurao Waghmare on October 12, 2012 at 22:15

Thanks sir 

very nice & intellectual replay 

Thanks & regards

Digambar B Waghmare  

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Permalink Reply by Vijayalekshmy K N on October 13, 2012 at 2:54

Well, going through the post by Mr.Sunny Joseph, it becomes evident that the author trying to glorify those who have got through the “NET” while the “Cut Off” limit was quite liberal as the“best”. In my opinion those who have not passed the exam may not be painted as mediocre and boasting those passed as the best is obviously an act proclaiming oneself as the best as I presume the author is net qualified. It may please be noted that a notification is a proclamation and breach of which is an indecent act whether it is committed by a person or an organization especially when it is committed by the out most educational policy handlers like UGC. It is not a “Giebelsian” lie that the UGC reduced the pass mark limit from that of the limit proclaimed in the notification. It is the UGC who judged the runners of the 100 meters at 90 meters. Mr.Sunny Joseph praises the UGC for conducting the examination with full transparency “this time”. Does this mean the previous exams were not so transparent? It is a contradiction that he praises the UGC for conducting the examination “for more than two decades with utmost care in all matters” and yet proposes so many suggestions for improvement including the debarring of the examiners! The hue and cry about the cut off mark is not “Tactics of failed” instead, it is a protest for justice by the denied.

I really feel sorry  for writing this kind of reply to my colleague.

Vijayalekshmy K N

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Permalink Reply by Siddu on April 15, 2015 at 20:45

http://lislinks.com/forum/topics/present-net-pattern

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Permalink Reply by Surajit on April 17, 2015 at 18:31

as per Buddha, '' quarrelling brings quarrelling, it does not give any solution". so personal opinion should always welcome but not at the cost of hitting others.

Its a very big issue.  It's not an important aspect whether it is 'descriptive' or 'objective', the important aspect is the 'standard'.

if a person have the quality, he/she will definitely qualify in both the medium, descriptive and objective..a lot of instances is there.... and if he/she dont have that, needs more and more excuses..

My dear Satheesh, u can ask anybody to shut his mouth, but u can never stop his/her intellectual ability.

And to my friend  Digambar, a good permanent job with a huge pay scale will not reveals everything regarding his intellectuality.  There are more things left which didn't reveals in pay slip.  I am sorry to both of you regarding my harsh statement but i couldn't control myself to say those words on this occasion.

Regards,

Surajit.

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